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Lafitte Welding Plate:
Patent Forge Welding Process
Looking for info on the chemical composition of Lafitte Welding Plate mentioned in books but no longer available here in the UK or anywhere as far as I can ascertain.
I'm told it came in sheets about 6" x 4" about the thickness of thin cardboard and possibly a bronzy colour.
Tony C
A few years ago, a friend sent me some Laffite welding plate from his trip to Spain.
It came with written instructions.
My retrieval system is pitiable, so I cannot locate it, but I know I still have it.
From memory, it is a grayish color and has tiny wire filaments run throughout.
Frank Turley
The Lafitte process was first heard of in 1905 (Iron Age May 11, 1905). It may be described as the handy application of a patent fluxing sheet between parts to be welded, and can only be used for joining iron and steel. The flux is sold as a plate, size 4 x 8 inches and about 1/16 inch thick. The plate is composed of a preparation of calcined borax and iron filings, molded over a sheet of wire gauze. The gauze is about 15 meshes to the inch in length. The iron wire is low-carbon (0.08 % by color determination (Specially analyzed).
The pieces to be welded are brought to the welding heat and forced together with a Lafitte plate between the contacts. As with all smith-welding, one of the contact surfaces should be decidedly convex, so that the point of it is first brought to bear on about the middle of the other contact surface. As the two surfaces are forced together, with the plate between, the borax melts and flows out, fluxing both surfaces as it flows. The iron gauze, which is inside the plate, is also partly melted and welds itself in place on both surfaces. It is likely that the strength of the Lafitte weld is a much due to the binding action of this low-carbon iron wire as it is to the complete fluxing of the borax. If properly done, the weld should be flawless. It is not necessary to use more of the plate then will cover both surfaces. The plate can be cut with ordinary shears.
From tests made it is claimed that the Lafitte weld is as strong as the metal, in case soft steel is welded; but the in high-carbon steel there is a slight lowering of the elongation and tensile strength (due no doubt to the reheating of a specialy treated product).
In all but on of these tests the tensile strength is greater for the Lafitte weld than for the body of the stock, which may indicate than an upset of metal was crowded in tot he weld by the pressure of welding; while with cast steel the quality of the metal might be improved by the pressure.
Hard Steel Test Mn, 1.35; C,0.45; S, 0.045; P,0.083; Si, 0.08
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Tensile strength kg. |
Before welding |
Lafitte weld |
Common Weld |
70 |
63.6 |
55.9 |
Elongation, per cent. |
15.3 |
10.0 11.7 |
2.5 |
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Test by the French Government - (Toulon Arsenal)
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Tensile Strength, lbs |
Elongation per cent |
Before |
Special Compound |
Lafitte |
Before |
Special Compound |
Lafitte |
Iron on Iron |
48,700 |
44,729 |
48,938 |
16.33 |
9.66 |
14.33 |
Iron on soft steel |
48,700 |
43,964 |
45,631 |
16.33 |
4.- |
4.- |
Steel on soft steel |
75,935 |
72,197 |
80,500 |
2.- |
1.- |
2.- |
Iron on Cast Steel |
75,935 |
43,719 |
78,692 |
2.- |
3.25 |
9.05 |
Cast steel on cast steel |
95,030 |
92,712 |
102,711 |
5.62 |
3.- |
5.- |
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The Lafitte method may suggest itself for stock welds, such as the joining of axel parts and in chain making; in other words, in instances of multiple welding, the the pressure machinery is handy. It is most used in France and Germany.
Welding: theory, practice, apparatus and tests, electric, thermit and hot-flame processes
By Richard Newell Hart, Published by McGraw-Hill book company, 1910. pp. 158-159
Laffitte Welding Plate:
I believe that Laffitte welding plate was made in France rather than Spain. The company headquarters being based in Paris at 102,Avenue Parmentier.
They had a wide range of products such as "Cuivrogene" (Laffitte Brazing strip),
"Unifonte" Brazing paste for cast iron, Zeca Laffitte solder for aluminium and alloys, "Fontogene" cast iron Brazing stick, welding powder, Laffitte brazing plates for repairing bandsaw blades and various other fluxes and brazing products.
Chris E - Tuesday, 04/28/09 17:02:49 EDT
References and Links
2009 Jock Dempsey, www.anvilfire.com
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Lafitte Welding Plate:
Patent Forge Welding Process
Looking for info on the chemical composition of Lafitte Welding Plate mentioned in books but no longer available here in the UK or anywhere as far as I can ascertain. I'm told it came in sheets about 6" x 4" about the thickness of thin cardboard and possibly a bronzy colour.Tony C
A few years ago, a friend sent me some Laffite welding plate from his trip to Spain. It came with written instructions. My retrieval system is pitiable, so I cannot locate it, but I know I still have it. From memory, it is a grayish color and has tiny wire filaments run throughout.
Frank Turley
Welding: theory, practice, apparatus and tests, electric, thermit and hot-flame processes
By Richard Newell Hart, Published by McGraw-Hill book company, 1910. pp. 158-159
Laffitte Welding Plate:
I believe that Laffitte welding plate was made in France rather than Spain. The company headquarters being based in Paris at 102,Avenue Parmentier.
They had a wide range of products such as "Cuivrogene" (Laffitte Brazing strip), "Unifonte" Brazing paste for cast iron, Zeca Laffitte solder for aluminium and alloys, "Fontogene" cast iron Brazing stick, welding powder, Laffitte brazing plates for repairing bandsaw blades and various other fluxes and brazing products.
Chris E - Tuesday, 04/28/09 17:02:49 EDT
References and Links
2009 Jock Dempsey, www.anvilfire.com